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Occupy Wall Street is an ongoing series of demonstrations in New York City based in Zuccotti Park. The protest was originally called for by the Canadian activist group Adbusters; it took inspiration from the Arab Spring movement (particularly the Tahrir Square protests in Cairo, which initiated the 2011 Egyptian Revolution) and from the Spanish Indignants. The participants of the event are mainly protesting against social and economic inequality, corporate greed, and the influence of corporate money and lobbyists on government, among other concerns.

Wikipedia Link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occupy_Wall_Street
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1 Day 1 Sucked from the start.
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2 Never Boned Still rocks.
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3 Sanitary issues Pooping on cop cars, leaving garbage, etc.
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4 Now Get a job you homeless bums...
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5 Camping out Protesting doesn't have to be a 24/7 job.
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6 Turns to victimizing churches Like a swarm of Locusts
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7 Flag Burning A New Low
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8 Repeating everything in unison That makes speech HARDER to understand
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1 So now they are burning flags in Oakland. Yep, that's going to help them get jobs. Dolfan, there is no support for these leeches because they are just asking for a handout, and being obnoxious hippies. WE DONT KNOW WHAT WE WANT, BUT WE WANT IT NOW!!! Not the kind of movement many people can support. -- Submitted By: (Chubby Rain) on January 31, 2012, 12:55 pm - (3 votes) - Login to Vote
2 Don't worry, I have nothing against working for McDonalds. After all, someone needs to do it. If no one worked at McDonalds, what would one do when they have a Big Mac attack :)? -- Submitted By: (ExplodingConsole) on January 30, 2012, 10:57 pm - (1 votes) - Login to Vote
3 My mind is still blown by all the vehement anti-protester sentiment. It's like people WANT the economy to keep being bad and WANT corruption and amoral greed to thrive and WANT people's rights further eroded. Why??? The only explanation I can come up with is that lots of people have actually adopted the mindset of "well I have a job so everyone else can just go to hell" and to me that's just pathetic. -- Submitted By: (DolFan316) on January 30, 2012, 6:58 pm - (1 votes) - Login to Vote
4 Well, there are many unemployed people who would LOVE to work at McDonalds but are turned away because they are "over-qualified". Trust me. And as far as all the "jobs" listed on craigslist....well, the majority of them are not what they appear to be and just because a job is posted, due to budget cuts, or a sudden change in the company's hiring needs, doesn't mean an employer will actually even interview, let alone, hire. -- Submitted By: (Stephanie) on January 30, 2012, 4:26 pm - (3 votes) - Login to Vote
5 Part of the problem is that, in the States at least, from what I've read, the number of unemployed is a a lot higher then the number of open positions. Another problem is the way people view jobs like McDonalds, retail etc. They see people working in these positions as uneducated and/or feel bad for them for having to 'suffer' with having such a job. It's annoying because our society honestly needs people to work these places of business. Society couldn't function if we are all big executives and no one stocked the shelves, flipped the burgers or washed the floors. Having said that, what you said still has value. Let's face it though, we're not all cut out for these high playing jobs. With some, you need to be a certain sort of person to get and keep a job like that. If you're in school, just look at these students that are at the head of the class. Look at the effort they're putting in and the sort of mentality they have. Yes, some make it look easy to the point where it's easy to get a feeling of entitlement towards the sorts of accomplishments they have. Let's face it, we're not all meant to go to one of the better Colleges or Universities and to take a high level degree. The problem is that, it's easy to expect the same sort of pay from any job that the sort of jobs these very expensive and high standard of students type degrees are geared towards. Not only that but it's easy to forget the dedication and long *long* hours some of these jobs require. Often, these are not the 9-5 sort of job where you put in your 8 hours and then go home. I think if a lot of us were to see the level of sacrifice and dedication these high paying jobs require that we'd be a lot less bitter about making less money. Now, that's not to say there isn't corruption or greed in these companies and in these positions. However, acting as though everyone should be handed the same sort of income unless you're ready, willing and able to put in that effort and dedication indeed, seems just as unfair. -- Submitted By: (ExplodingConsole) on January 28, 2012, 11:05 pm - (2 votes) - Login to Vote
6 One of my main complaints is when people say there "no jobs" out there or always using the "bad economy" excuse. I go to Craigslist and Monsters and see hundreds upon hundreds of jobs. There ARE jobs out there for all skill levels. I think so many people feel so entitled and privledged that they feel they are better than some jobs available. If you want a better job, you'll need to get better training, especially in the very competitive landscape today. Start low and work your way up. Complete high school. Can't afford college? Go to community college. People can't see the forest from the trees. There is still opportunity to be had. You just have to take initiative to go get it. It's hard, it's tough, and it's not always fair, but that's life. Don't blame the rich for your ills, spend less than what you make, don't buy what you don't need, and live within your means. Can't find a job? Start a company or find creative ways to make income. This is still America, still the land of opportunity, and you can still make it if you play your cards right. I do agree that the immoral behavior of greedy CEOs and Wall Street needs to be stopped, but I get very, very VERY tired of the excuse that there are no jobs and the media putting fear in everyone of doom and gloom. -- Submitted By: (kingbk) on January 27, 2012, 6:22 pm - (5 votes) - Login to Vote
7 I was under the impression that the problem more or less gets down to the fact that there aren't enough jobs for all of the job seekers out there. The reason why it's so many young people is because a lot of these young people haven't had a chance to begin careers. Many are facing a job market where it's hard to get even a part-time job at McDonalds. They're facing competition from older job seekers in the same boat who even after years are still unable to get a career going and both groups are facing a situation after what sometimes gets into years later, end up facing competition from younger graduates. Some are facing the worry that they'll never be able to get a decent job and their education was for naught. The problem is, this is not a new situation. This has been going on for a good decade or so. Protesting like this however, is not going to fix things. As many others have said, they need leaders, people that can make a coherent and intelligent argument along with reasonable demands and a way to get those demands into action. Then they need to go to Washington and make those demands. Blaming the rich for everything is not the way to solve these problems. It's a situation where we all need to sit down and ask why this is happening. We all need to take responsibility for the role each of us has played in creating this situation. Screaming and yelling won't accomplish anything. -- Submitted By: (ExplodingConsole) on January 26, 2012, 10:09 pm - (2 votes) - Login to Vote
8 Another church victimized by the Locust horde. http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2012/01/22/desecration-at-church-leads-nyc-pastor-to-evict-occupy-wall-street/ -- Submitted By: (Chubby Rain) on January 26, 2012, 5:41 pm - (1 votes) - Login to Vote
9 The locusts just keep on moving.... http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2012/01/ows-campers-desecrating-new-york-churches.html -- Submitted By: (Chubby Rain) on January 26, 2012, 5:40 pm - (1 votes) - Login to Vote
10 I've heard the reports that they desecrated churches who took them in. What have the churches ever done to them in respect to Wall Street? And even though they HATE big business, they have no problem using restrooms owned by evil corporations (like McDonald's). Notice the "evil" corporations grant these people who hate them permission to use their facilities? Everyone else would tell them to get lost. There are those who criticize big business and have legitamite complaints (unfair practices such as Bank of America's charging people to use their own money, companies who exploit their workers, crooked CEOs who would sell their own mothers to make a quick buck, etc.). But it's unwise to paint everyone with the same broad brush. -- Submitted By: (Robert) on January 26, 2012, 12:47 pm - (1 votes) - Login to Vote
11 JamesO, you seem like a good guy and I wish someone like you was in charge of the movement. Instead, the fact there are no true leaders and no strong message really neuters any impact the movement has. -- Submitted By: (Travoltron) on January 26, 2012, 12:07 am - (1 votes) - Login to Vote
12 James- so basically money is bad, and corporations are evil- despite the fact that the majority of Americans are employed, and given benefits by corporations. And yes they are moving from church to church like Locusts. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204124204577155090035636750.html That's one of about 70 articles about them being at churches. Finally, your comment about them "taking in the mentally ill", I would submit the entire movement is either hippies, or the mentally ill. WE DONT KNOW WHAT WE WANT WE WANT IT NOW.. or ..MONEY IS BAD & COMPANIES ARE BAD GIVE US STUFF!!! That about sums up the websites you listed that they need to explain this expression of idiocy. -- Submitted By: (Chubby Rain) on January 25, 2012, 4:32 am - (1 votes) - Login to Vote
13 Here's their only official release of what they're protesting. Other "demands" were overblown or just an opinion of one person which would be too extreme for anyone to take seriously. http://occupywallst.org/forum/first-official-release-from-occupy-wall-street/ Of course, saying they're getting kicked out "building to building" is just hyperbole. Their problems was in taking in homeless, mentally ill people who caused most of the problems. I agree they didn't need to keep camping out. Once they got media attention which took a while they could have left and now had a platform to express their views. -- Submitted By: (JamesO) on January 24, 2012, 11:02 am - (1 votes) - Login to Vote
14 They're protesting corporate money in politics in a nutshell. The fact that a corporation is a person but gets more rights and can't be prosecuted like a real human being and legislation continues to favor those with money on the backs of the less fortunate. The wikipedia article explains it pretty well. What they're protesting seems pretty clear to me. -- Submitted By: (JamesO) on January 24, 2012, 10:54 am - (0 votes) - Login to Vote
15 James- please enlighten us- what is the message? We dont know what we want, but we want it now? Last I heard these degenerates were squatting in churchs and other buildings like locusts until they get thrown out of said building to go to another one. -- Submitted By: (Chubby Rain) on January 24, 2012, 10:40 am - (1 votes) - Login to Vote
16 There's been a lot of misinformation about this group in the media(since it's corporate owned and not liking this message). I agree their tactics aren't always the best but it's better here to focus on the message and not the messengers. -- Submitted By: (JamesO) on January 24, 2012, 10:10 am - (-1 votes) - Login to Vote
17 The 15 minutes of fame on this nonsense seems to have blown over. I guess tresspassing and illegal behavior didnt catch on for the "WE DONT KNOW WHAT WE WANT, BUT WE WANT IT NOW" generation/movement. -- Submitted By: (Chubby Rain) on December 21, 2011, 7:36 am - (2 votes) - Login to Vote
18 Yeah, I have to agree they are right about some things. But then they do 5 dumb things to counteract every 1 good thing they do. They're supposed to support the American worker, right? Well, our local Occupy branch is outreaching to the illegal immigrant (sorry, "undocumented worker") demographic to get involved in the movement. Those people are PART OF THE PROBLEM and are taking jobs away from American workers; they're basically the same thing as outsourcing and are benefiting only that 1% that Occupy despises. On the plus side, they're making life miserable almost daily for Adam Carolla, of which I applaud. -- Submitted By: (Travoltron) on December 14, 2011, 4:38 pm - (1 votes) - Login to Vote
19 I've said it elsewhere, and I'll say it here. Yes, I would bet you anything there are at least a few people protesting that have legitimate points, can peacefully and adequately make their point, and has some brains. Sadly, the sheer majority though seem to be either a bunch of teen's/young adults who seem to think that protesting is cool, and couldn't make a point even if you presented a good point for them on a piece of paper, or a bunch of troublemakers looking to take advantage of a situation. -- Submitted By: (PYLrulz) on December 14, 2011, 1:33 am - (7 votes) - Login to Vote
20 I fully support the movement. Something HAS to be done. Capitalism is broken and if nothing's done then in 3-5 years America as we know it will no longer exist. The methods on the other hand are a different story. -- Submitted By: (DolFan316) on December 13, 2011, 7:41 pm - (-4 votes) - Login to Vote

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