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Who said you can't coin your own term? What is "Boning the Fish"? It's a moment. A defining moment when you know that your favorite TV Show, Celebrity, Movie Series or Music Group has reached its peak. That instant you know from now on...it's all downhill. Some call it a climax of sorts. We call it "Boning the fish". From that moment on things will simply never be the same.

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Big Brother - TV Shows
I don't know which version is being talked about, but regardless I know that it sucks. -- Submitted By: (johnnydough) on May 31, 2011, 2:26 am

Big Brother - TV Shows
Lock the idiots in the house, turn the temperature down to about 40, feed them nothing but that so-called slop, don't let them smoke or watch TV or bathe, and pipe polka music into the house day and night. Renege on the million-dollar prize and give the winner twenty bucks and a small jar of mayonnaise. Then I might be induced to watch Big Brother. -- Submitted By: (Soggy9000) on May 30, 2011, 8:16 pm

Telemarketing/Telesales - Random Topics
I have, and they probably HAVE called back sometime later in spite of it. One company calls almost every day at about 6:15 p.m., in spite of the things I tell the rep on the rare occasions I answer the phone. (It's my bank, or rather the massive corporation that owns my bank; they want to offer me a home equity line of credit, despite my never having applied for one. They always mispronounce my name too. Sometimes they will also offer me a service I already have with them, which tells me that the various departments of the corporation are not communicating with each other very well - or, more likely, that they just don't give a shit. The first dozen times they called, I politely asked them not to call me any more. That was at least fifty calls ago.) -- Submitted By: (Soggy9000) on May 30, 2011, 3:57 pm

Lisa Simpson - Random Topics
I haven't watched the Simpsons in some time to be honest. As for Bart being a jerk, remember the vacation episode where Bart embarrassed Lisa in front of the new friends she made. He did it because he was jealous of her, he felt she was a nerd and was faking being cool or, I dunno, some other reason that seemed logical at the time but was in reality stupid. Granted, he felt genuinely bad when he realized he'd hurt her. Yes, he took action to fix things but it still, his initial actions were wrong. Or, in the Thanksgiving episode where Bart ruined Lisa's centrepiece, didn't care and got all upset when the adults yelled at time. He eventually ran away, still not seeing the error of his ways. It wasn't until Lisa finally sat him down and talked him that he saw it from her point of view, realized what a jerk he'd been and apologized. Granted, teaching someone to not do bad things out of 'how would you feel if someone did that to you?' is worlds better then making them not do it out of fear of someone retaliating. And yes, Lisa also felt terrible when Bart ran away. IIRC, feeling that it wasn't worth losing her brother over a centrepiece, even when he was in the wrong. In the Science Fair episode, remember that Lisa did make her experiment "Is my brother dumber then a Hamster?". Although Bart did ruin her previous experiment, so, he kinda deserved it. Also remember in the episode where Bart lost out on the trip the chocolate factory, Lisa was smug about Bart missing out on the bus and even felt he deserved to miss out on the trip. Her attitude was it was the only way he'll learn. I don't recall him doing anything to her in that episode. One thing I've noticed about Lisa vs Bart. When Bart is the villain, it's usually more sibling rivalry stuff. The kinda stuff one looks back at as an adult and wants to smack themselves for doing. I think part of the issue with Lisa is that we're supposed to sympathize with Bart, even when he's a jerk. So, when he's a jerk, we cringe at how he can be such a jerk. However, they don't glorify it. They take the attitude that he's being a jerk and it's wrong. With Lisa, they've turned her into the annoying teenager (even though she's a kid) that's learned a bit about environmental stuff etc. that demands we do things the way she think is right. She doesn't take into consideration that if changing things for the better were so easy and worked just as well as the bad for the environment ways that we'd have all done it by now. However, as I've said before and want to elaborate, Lisa is also the victim here. They're using her as a puppet for those views. Btw, is there any way to get paragraphs working? Posts would look much better if they weren't all one big block of text. -- Submitted By: (ExplodingConsole) on May 30, 2011, 3:54 pm

Rap (music) - Random Topics
I think the East coast vs. West coast rap wars were both the climax and decline. Rap was at a peak talentwise, but the songs started entering the now familiar territory of demeaning women, talking of drugs and money. Once 2pac and Notorious were killed in the late 90's, the creativity, heart and soul disappeared. -- Submitted By: (kingbk) on May 30, 2011, 12:59 pm

Man vs. Food - TV Shows
I love this show. It introduces to new restaurants I've never thought of trying before and Adam has a positive, fun attitude while hosting the show. I'm sure the health problems he's had since hosting aren't good, but I always find myself cheering him on. Never boned. -- Submitted By: (kingbk) on May 30, 2011, 12:54 pm

Don Bluth - Random Topics
Looking at his filmography, I think you may be right. His last great movie was All Dogs Go to Heaven (1989). His final film was Titan A.E. (2000). We really need more traditionally done movies. Compare one of Bluth's 1980s movies to the dime-a-dozen CGI movies of today and see for yourself. -- Submitted By: (Robert) on May 30, 2011, 11:35 am

Telemarketing/Telesales - Random Topics
You are so bad, Soggy! Have you ever really done that? And if so, have they ever called you again? -- Submitted By: (Robert) on May 30, 2011, 11:19 am

Lamisil - Random Topics
Ugh, I'm glad I just finished lunch when I read this. The Mucinex snot family is pretty gross, but the toe fungus barely beats them for worst mascot ever. -- Submitted By: (Robert) on May 30, 2011, 11:16 am

Howard Stern - Celebrities
Though I'm not a fan of Howard Stern (I don't hate him), I commend him for doing that on 9/11. They needed a shoulder to cry on, and he was there to provide it. -- Submitted By: (Robert) on May 30, 2011, 11:12 am

Lisa Simpson - Random Topics
People still watch because...I don't know. I stopped watching regularly around 2000, vowing never to watch a new episode again after "That 90s Show". You know, I did some deep thinking after reading these comments. I come to the conclusion that maybe it's not Lisa we hate, but instead, we hate what she's become. As ExplodingConsole pointed out, Bart can be a jerk too. After ruining her babysitting service, Bart apologized, and I remember thinking, "That's nice, but saying you're sorry isn't going to bring back Lisa's babysitting service." But all was forgiven when she got two calls asking for her help. Before that, Bart ruined her science fair project (I know, who can resist throwing a tomato that size at the principal's butt when he's bending over?) then hijacked her hamster experiment and took first prize. I felt bad for her. When an aptitude test pegged her as a homemaker, she went bad, then stole the teachers' editions. Bart had a great chance to turn his life around, but took the fall so Lisa could have a bright future. This was possibly the biggest sacrifice Bart ever made for Lisa, and I felt bad for him. But at least Bart becomes chief justice of the supreme court when he grows up. Lisa's not the only one who's taken a turn for the worse: while she's gotten self-righteous, Bart went from a menace with some good in him to a jerk who's almost as stupid as Homer. Homer's gone from a dopey dad who at least cared for his family to a selfish jerk and a complete idiot. The reason Lisa's singled out is because her holier-than-thou attitude is more annoying than stupidity. Nobody likes a mouthpiece character, which includes Brian from Family Guy. We want to be entertained, not told what to think! Marge and Maggie are the only ones who haven't really changed. For now... And PYLrulz, you're right: I think the only time South Park refused to see the other side of the issue--and rightfully so--was the NAMBLA episode. When the leader says he "learned something today", Kyle replies: "Dude..you tried to have sex with children!" And Stan says something like, "We're all for tolerance, but **** you!" -- Submitted By: (Robert) on May 30, 2011, 11:02 am

WIRE, The - TV Shows
I havent heard anyone talk about this show in a while- missing the daily manhunts for Omar and the crooked world of Baltimore! -- Submitted By: (Chubby Rain) on May 30, 2011, 9:28 am

Rap (music) - Random Topics
There is no denying that the genre has been important in terms of its influence on other musical forms, and for that I appreciate it. In fact, it's spawned some interesting hybrids like rap metal and rapcore. But I agree with most of you that when the artists set aside the social commentary and just became all about drugs and guns and pimping and the shallowest sort of materialism, rap lost its heart. -- Submitted By: (Soggy9000) on May 29, 2011, 10:35 pm

Life Goes On - TV Shows
Remember the episode when the father knocked up the mother. They went and got tests to make sure the next one wasn't going to be retard. When they found out the kid was normal they celebrated. Man, talk about making the Corky retard feel bad! -- Submitted By: (Poopsprayer) on May 29, 2011, 10:12 pm

Man vs. Food - TV Shows
Interestingly enough, Adam has an M.A. from Yale. (That doesn't stand for "Mangled Arteries", though he may soon have those as well.) This show is a huge guilty pleasure of mine, so I haven't come upon a Boning Moment yet. -- Submitted By: (Soggy9000) on May 29, 2011, 10:08 pm

Lisa Simpson - Random Topics
And folks still watch this cartoon because. ..why again? -- Submitted By: (Pelirojo) on May 29, 2011, 8:53 pm

Lamisil - Random Topics
I think whoever pitched[and bought] the fungus and muccus 'character' ideas ARE fungal snots. Just gross- and not in an entertaining or clever way. -- Submitted By: (Pelirojo) on May 29, 2011, 8:51 pm

Lost in Space - TV Shows
tsbrownie, Truth be told that ep was TYPICAL rather than an anomaly. Although, I looked it up and found out that the head 'biker' was none other than Daniel J. Travanti[ Lt. Frank Furillo on "Hill Street Blues"].On a positive note, I also discovered that Mark Goddard quit acting a few years back to further his education and currently teaches special education. Good for him. c Too many actors go to obscurity and whine about no longer being contenders but do little if anything to help those in true need. -- Submitted By: (Pelirojo) on May 29, 2011, 8:49 pm

Howard Stern - Celebrities
I agree, Soggy. I can recall him saying in an interview he was 'angry' that his satellite show didn't get the EXACT number of viewers as the over-the-air show. Not disappointed, not unhappy but 'angry'- despite him making megamillions regardless. Truth be told, his show never was something I went out of my way to see.Still, I'm glad he DID do that for those shell-shocked by 9/11 in the immediate aftermath (I have kin who were close enough to WITNESS the Towers going down). -- Submitted By: (Pelirojo) on May 29, 2011, 8:44 pm

Outsourced - TV Shows
Soggy, I'd totally agree with you about this being an unfunny concept- except for reasons I'll never understand there IS an audience who like Donald Trump's 'You're fired'. I guess those viewers don't have to work nor know anyone who does. -- Submitted By: (Pelirojo) on May 29, 2011, 8:40 pm

Howard Stern - Celebrities
The guy is just not hungry any more. (A couple hundred million bucks will do that.) -- Submitted By: (Soggy9000) on May 29, 2011, 11:28 am

Wikipedia - Websites
Thanks for the elaboration, Chubby. It's odd that a BTF entry was on Wikipedia for that long before it was removed. And I've seen entries there for far more questionable sites than this one. It's too bad that the folks over there are so full of themselves, and it definitely discourages me from contributing entries and edits there. (By the way, I'm guessing by his name that Sheffield Steel is either an Englishman or a wannabe porn star.) -- Submitted By: (Soggy9000) on May 29, 2011, 11:19 am

Rock music - Random Topics
And there always will be. Those who proclaim "Rock is dead" remind me of the mid-19th-century head of the U.S. Patent Office who declared his job to be no longer necessary since, according to him, everything that could possibly be invented had been by then. -- Submitted By: (Soggy9000) on May 29, 2011, 11:02 am

Liberalism - Random Topics
You're right, of course. Nor is anyone under any obligation to explain why he/she chooses a particular subject to submit. However, the matter is open to conjecture, and I suspect that the number of BTFers who are most interested in submitting subjects they hated from the get-go explains the presence of quite a few subjects on this site. (All those far-left acronym activist groups, for example. There are lots of them here, including some that are quite obscure - yet there are no far-RIGHT activist groups listed, for some reason.) -- Submitted By: (Soggy9000) on May 29, 2011, 10:55 am

Wikipedia - Websites
Soggy- SheffieldSteel was the inept administratior over there that we bashed fairly hard at wikipedia. I'm sure he is up bright an early looking for citations on the color of woody woodpecker's hair in the last episode of the series or some other important act of deletionism. Who is Sheffield Steel in real life? Anyone know? -- Submitted By: (Chubby Rain) on May 29, 2011, 6:02 am

Wikipedia - Websites
Soggy- as one of the 12 or so BTF users that got swept up in the Wikipedia controversy, yes there is some very bad blood between that site and this site. A very simple link on the JTS wiki page to our page as the self annointed spiritual successor to that site was up for over a year, and then removed, and was put back, and removed etc. several times. Then they claimed BTF wasnt notable, despite out lengthy and documented tack record of mentions (see the FRIENDS OF BTF link). I dont recall the admins name on Wikipedia, but these are not normal people, and you cannot communicate with them on any level that normal humans do- it's all about wiki speak and hiding on their wiki pages. Of course once they shit on BTF, and said we as the BTF nation were not notable, we trashed the admin from their site personally here, knowing that in his or her computer geek wiki lifestyle would read it. Also, there is a strong feeling that the long tendrils of TV guide dont want us on another corportate partner knocking them (wikipedia and TV guide connection as corporate whores hand in hand- sort of like the job placement sites raping jobvent.com- see that page for more details on it's boniong demise) there are tons of websites with links on wiki that have no "documentaton" on them- why?. Also the arguments from the wiki admins were all losing propostions, they won because they "said so" not on any merit of their arguments or interpretations of rules. Ultimately, they failed, the ban on wiki only added to the outlaw independent "cred" and appeal of this website to it's core users. Hope that helps. -- Submitted By: (Chubby Rain) on May 29, 2011, 6:00 am

Howard Stern - Celebrities
The show since 2010 has been a shell of the 4 prior years on Satellite Radio. No Artie, then refusing to replace Artie, suing sirius and then adding more commercials, ending at 10am sharp, 3 day work weeks, more vacations. Sad, and a new era of boning for the show. -- Submitted By: (Chubby Rain) on May 29, 2011, 5:50 am

Rock music - Random Topics
There are alot of bands in rock that have boned (Metallica) however, there is always a new rock band that keeps the genre going. -- Submitted By: (Chubby Rain) on May 29, 2011, 5:48 am

Liberalism - Random Topics
You are hearing crickets because there is no answer to your question. There isnt a form to fill out for "why" you are submitting a topic to BTF. Keep on waiting.... -- Submitted By: (Chubby Rain) on May 29, 2011, 5:46 am

Drew Barrymore - Celebrities
I don't care much for most of the movies she's in, but I will give her credit for being one of the few child stars to have a successful adult film career. -- Submitted By: (cartooner) on May 29, 2011, 12:35 am

Outsourced - TV Shows
Aw crap, I voted "Never Boned" by accident, I meant "Too cliche". My internet browser is acting up today >_<. Anyways thank goodness I didn't waste my time watching that oblivious sterotypical crap. -- Submitted By: (SSM) on May 28, 2011, 8:42 pm

X-Men: The Animated Series (1992-1997) - TV Shows
It was mostly a great series in the begininng but just starting to remember though with the Phoenix saga while great in the beginning but they really butchred it in the end somehow. Then the animation style started to look weird towards the end is where it BTF. -- Submitted By: (SSM) on May 28, 2011, 8:29 pm

Spider-Man: The Animated Series (1994-1998) - TV Shows
The only problem I had is Fox cancelled too soon before we get to find out what happened to Mary-Jane, despite high ratings it had. I heard that the producers were planning another whole season with spider-man searching for MJ though different dimensions or something like that, but Fox pulled the plug on them. Overall, it never BTF for me, I don't understand censorship as part of a reason for BTF as they did show some fighting at least. It might not be violent like the comics books but it isn't waterdown too much like 4kids would had done. -- Submitted By: (SSM) on May 28, 2011, 8:19 pm

X-Men: Evolution - TV Shows
I watched it a few times but I just couldn't get into this series as much. I guess because the other X-Men Animated Series spoiled me too much and I had high expection for this one. -- Submitted By: (SSM) on May 28, 2011, 8:06 pm

4chan - Websites
I don't know how to feel about 4chan to be honest. For one thing, they did help identify the girl who thrown the puppies in the river and make Oprah look really stupid. But they also done alot annoying crap on there too like spamming/hacking some sites. -- Submitted By: (SSM) on May 28, 2011, 7:47 pm

Trolls (internet) - Random Topics
I could see though about the people responded to them, it's hard to resist to not tell them off, but at the end of the day that excactly what they want from you, a response to their madness. -- Submitted By: (SSM) on May 28, 2011, 7:37 pm

Varenicline (trade name Chantix) - Random Topics
Damn! Smokers are better off to continue to smoke! -- Submitted By: (Stephanie) on May 28, 2011, 2:27 pm

Outsourced - TV Shows
The creators probably thought: "Hey! Let's cash in on the whole success of "Slumdog Millionare" and the Bollywood (sp?) craze! Didn't work, did it? I HATED this show. -- Submitted By: (Stephanie) on May 28, 2011, 2:26 pm

Lost in Space - TV Shows
S3E09 Collision of Planets: they have to fight off an interstellar motorcycle gang that has been sent to blow up the planet. Dr. Smith becomes a curly headed muscle man. BTF -- Submitted By: (tsbrownie) on May 28, 2011, 8:38 am

Outsourced - TV Shows
Someone clearly had a tin ear when it came to the mood of the American electorate. "Hey, let's make a sitcom about an American company that moved its labor force to India. I'm sure all the millions of Americans who are out of work because their company did the same thing will just absolutely love a show like that, assuming they aren't three months behind on their power bill and have had their electricity turned off, har har har!" This subject is about as funny as a heart attack, and the fact that it could get on the air at all only proves how disconnected TV-industry execs are from the viewers who have made them so rich. -- Submitted By: (Soggy9000) on May 28, 2011, 6:10 am

Varenicline (trade name Chantix) - Random Topics
Usually when these products run TV ads warning about 27 different potentially scary side-effects, viewers are bound to chuckle. In this case, those warnings are clearly no laughing matter. I sure hope nobody I know is taking this stuff. -- Submitted By: (Soggy9000) on May 28, 2011, 5:58 am

Varenicline (trade name Chantix) - Random Topics
Smoking-pill suicides overlooked in missing reports Hundreds of reports of suicides, psychotic reactions and other serious problems tied to the popular stop-smoking drug Chantix were left out of a crucial government safety review because Pfizer Inc., the drug’s manufacturer, submitted years of data through “improper channels.” Some 150 suicides — more than doubling those previously known — were among 589 delayed reports of severe issues turned up in a new analysis by the non-profit Institute for Safe Medication Practices. -- Submitted By: (lrbloom) on May 28, 2011, 3:16 am

Telemarketing/Telesales - Random Topics
When my phone rings, I will not answer it if no return number is indicated on the screen - UNLESS I'm in an evil mood. Then I'll answer, let the person get a few seconds into their sales pitch, then interrupt them to say: "You know, if you'd only stayed in high school and gotten that diploma, you'd have a REAL job today, and far fewer people would fantasize about ripping your tongue out of your head and sticking it up your big fat ass." -- Submitted By: (Soggy9000) on May 28, 2011, 2:29 am

Lamisil - Random Topics
Of course, we mustn't forget the Musinex Mucus Family.... -- Submitted By: (Soggy9000) on May 28, 2011, 1:59 am

Chick Tracts - Random Topics
Apparently I've lived a sheltered life because I've never heard of these things before now. They seem to beg the question of how to evaluate their fish-boning status. If taken as a serious evangelizing aid, it's probably fair to say they boned from the moment of their creation. (Has anyone actually converted to Mr Chick's odd strain of Christianity as a result of reading them?) If the tracts are taken as the sort of unintentionally amusing propaganda that characterizes, say, the film Reefer Madness, I'd say they provide too many chuckles to have boned. -- Submitted By: (Soggy9000) on May 28, 2011, 1:41 am

Patti Davis - Celebrities
I was a big admirer of her Playboy pictorial. -- Submitted By: (lrbloom) on May 27, 2011, 9:34 pm

Apples Way - TV Shows
I seem to recall it about the same way. It was only on for about one season. I seem to recall it leaving next to no impression other than being a blatant almost condescending attempt to cash in on "The Waltons" popularity. Notice the title. It told people that if you think this sounds sacharine, you're probably right. This was definitely a here today gone tomorrow type show, I don't remember anyone saying anything at all about it, while "The Waltons" had a fanbase, this never was around long enough to develop one. It was instantly the kind of show that you love to change the channel on . Networks were unashamed about blatant rip-offs of a successful shows; e.g. ethnic comedies, nighttime soaps, reality shows, etc. This show was laughable than anything. -- Submitted By: (lrbloom) on May 27, 2011, 9:33 pm

Batman: The Brave and the Bold - TV Shows
Mixed feelings on this one. From what I've seen of it, I can't deny it's a well-made show. But why couldn't it have been just "The Brave and the Bold"? Why shoehorn Batman into every single story? All the other superheroes are written as idiots or buffoons to make Batman look better. I guess I feel that the Batman character should stay somewhat "dark". That's the way he started out and it took a lot of work to get him back that way after people became accustomed to the silly Batman of the '60s. -- Submitted By: (Travoltron) on May 27, 2011, 8:00 pm

Randy "Macho Man" Savage - Celebrities
One could add Chris Benoit, but that might be a low blow. What's amazing to me is how many of these roided-up monsters have made it past age 40. -- Submitted By: (Soggy9000) on May 27, 2011, 7:56 pm

Lisa Simpson - Random Topics
There are two trains of argument on this board. One, that the character has become excessively, irritatingly strident and self-righteous over the years; and two, that these traits are being spun in a positive way by the show's producers because she is voicing their own views. From what little of the show I see these days, I can see plenty of evidence to support the first claim, and rather little to support the second (at least insofar as the more sharply leftwing stances are presented as how we viewers ought to think). And if the second claim were in fact accurate, the fault rightly belongs with the producers rather than with their mouthpiece character. -- Submitted By: (Soggy9000) on May 27, 2011, 7:35 pm

Maledicta - Websites
That seems like a bit of a stretch. A subject that had zero action since its introduction - no votes, no posts - suddenly registering a vote from someone else at the exact moment I posted my comment? Oh well; it's not something that's likely to keep me up at night. -- Submitted By: (Soggy9000) on May 27, 2011, 7:21 pm

Outsourced - TV Shows
First off, this isn't a funny topic. Thousands of Americans are losing their jobs everyday to outsourcing. Do people really want to watch a comedy about it? Second, I hate people that get too PC about everything, but the show is full of cliches and stereotypes of Indians, showing no creativity in writing solid characters. Finally, another show by NBC that's in single-camera documentary style. Please, give this style a rest for a while. Thank God this was cancelled. -- Submitted By: (kingbk) on May 27, 2011, 6:50 pm

Lisa Simpson - Random Topics
Robert described it best. When South Park pushes something, they either rip on something that everybody knows is whacked out, or if its something more sensible, and you disagree... hey, fine, thats cool, we all have opinions. When Lisa does something, its "My way or the highway". -- Submitted By: (PYLrulz) on May 27, 2011, 6:28 pm

Beavis and Butthead - TV Shows
Well, like I mentioned before, Mike Judge is in charge of the show, so that is something to look up to. As long as MTV doesn't send in the censors to hijack it, it should be fine, especially with the 15+ years of music videos Beavis and Butthead have to catch up on -- Submitted By: (PYLrulz) on May 27, 2011, 6:13 pm

Howard Stern - Celebrities
I remember listening to clips of that show (I was in school that day when it all happened). Lots of people were giving credit to the wrong people in entertainment for that. What Howard did that day was simply amazing, and should of been awarded for it any way possible -- Submitted By: (PYLrulz) on May 27, 2011, 6:12 pm

Randy "Macho Man" Savage - Celebrities
@Robert. Don't forget Captain Lou Alabrando. Or Mario! -- Submitted By: (johnnydough) on May 27, 2011, 5:59 pm

Apples Way - TV Shows
I think I was about 9 years old when this show came out and I don't really remember a lot about it. What I do recall is this, 'The Walton's' were VERY popular at the time and 'Apple's Way', when it debuted, was being billed as sort of a 'modern-day Waltons' (you know, kinda like "Hey if you like The Walton's, then yew'll loooooooooove this..."). I remember watching a few episodes, but the show obviously made very little impression on me as I do not recall any of the plots of what I saw and then I just gave up on it. Heck, I had no idea it went more than one season and was even re-booted as a sitcom. -- Submitted By: (Friedrich_Feuerstein) on May 27, 2011, 4:11 pm

Lisa Simpson - Random Topics
I consider myself fairly left when it comes to environmentalism and far-left when it comes to animal rights-- and she even annoys me at times. I think it's the snobbish arrogance that she frequently displays. It's not always political. On South Park, Stan and Kyle would say, "You know what guys, maybe..." whereas Lisa has said things like, "When will these fools learn that..." -- Submitted By: (Travoltron) on May 27, 2011, 2:51 pm

Survivor - TV Shows
If we do that, those countries might declare war against us... -- Submitted By: (Robert) on May 27, 2011, 12:59 pm

Wikipedia - Websites
Wikipedia was chum fodder before their conflict with BTF users, and even if the conflict never happened, my opinion would still be the same. For many of their entries, if you compare two certain ones, you'll see the bias. Try to correct errors (which end up portraying their "saints" in a negative light), and watch your contribution get deleted. Many admins refuse to accept facts, even if you have a reliable source. They'll just make up some excuse to delete it and rationalize their excuse. All the reasons you see against Wikipedia are valid. Just about all were put up here before the conflict over BTF's entry. However, I respect those who contribute to Wikipedia in the name of spreading the truth and knowledge. Unlike the hijackers who use Wikipedia as their very own propaganda machine. -- Submitted By: (Robert) on May 27, 2011, 12:56 pm

Lisa Simpson - Random Topics
Remember though with the wacking day episode, Bart helped as well. Remember that it was Bart that pointed out the inconsistencies in the history books that proved that wacking day was a sham. And yes, Bart was acting like a jerk (beyond jerk) in the babysitting episode. While I can understand why he was so upset, it doesn't make his actions right or acceptable. He was justified in his indignation. However, acting as he acted only served to show that he *really* needed a babysitter. Notice however that when Bart goes with Lisa as an equal that his behaviour and intellect are often considerably better. Also don't forget what Bart did in the episode where Lisa was rebelling and took the teachers copies of the text books. I've also noticed that there is one word that can often sum up why Bart misbehaves when he misbehaves: Homer. Notice that when Lisa uses her indignation and morals for good and Bart is on her side and they work together that they make a pretty kick-ass team? Then again, Homer is the same guy that said "Bart can kiss my hairy yellow butt" when Marge expressed worry that Bart would be jealous of Lisa (i.e., when Lisa was born. Homer also declared Lisa to be wave of the future when her intelligence was blooming. When Bart was at the same time starting to have issues, Homer took an attitude of writing Bart off as a failure. Bart Simpson strikes me as the kind of person that could be a good kid. Heck, he could be a damn good and smart kid (let's just forget that Simpson gene garbage they came up with in that one episode) if it wasn't for bad influences like Homer and the bullies. Lisa in encouraged to be the best she can be while Bart is encouraged to be an ass. Notice that in early episodes, they had Bart and Lisa being successful as an adult? Later ones have Bart being more of a failure and Lisa more successful. Perhaps the problem with Lisa isn't Lisa per say. It's that they're making Bart and Homer look increasingly worse to make Lisa look better. Everyone has become caricatures of themselves. Lisa is a victim of the same issue Homer is once you get down to it. -- Submitted By: (ExplodingConsole) on May 27, 2011, 12:56 pm

Public Libraries - Random Topics
I have no problem with people going on the internet at libraries. Except when they hog it for entertainment when people need to use it for research and school/college projects... -- Submitted By: (Robert) on May 27, 2011, 12:45 pm

Maledicta - Websites
Someone may have voted Never Boned at the same time of your post. -- Submitted By: (Robert) on May 27, 2011, 12:43 pm

Randy "Macho Man" Savage - Celebrities
So many great wrestlers gone: Andre the Giant, Yokozuna, Mr. Perfect, Owen Hart, Ludvig Borga, and now the Macho Man. I remember watching Dial M for Monkey, he did the voice of Rasslor. That was cool. -- Submitted By: (Robert) on May 27, 2011, 12:41 pm

Lisa Simpson - Random Topics
Lisa wasn't always bad, but they made her that way. She used to be the voice of reason, just like Marge. I think another reason people resent Lisa could stem from once liking her as the voice of reason and seeing she's de-evolved into a crazed activist. Stan and Kyle (usually) don't ram their ideas down the viewers' throats, they just "learned something today". Speaking of South Park, I see a comparison between Lisa's vegetarianism vs the South Park boy's vegetarianism: Lisa ruins Homer's BBQ, the boys steal calves from a veal farm. Both Lisa and the boys disrespect their parents (Stan even tells his parents to "kiss [his] ass"). Lisa's still a vegetarian, the boys stopped after Stan got sick from it. Lisa was never punished for what she had done. The boys, however, were punished despite "learning something today". When it comes to their opinions, Lisa is hyper-left, while the boys are more balanced. If they were to suddenly tilt hyper-right, there's a good chance they'd be hated as much as Lisa. Perhaps more so. Also, considering how awful the Simpsons had gotten in the past decade--and STILL being kept on the air--it's not hard to see why people have more respect for Parker and Stone than they do for Groening. When Parker and Stone do an episode with a political message, I hear: "Here's what we think about it. If you don't agree with us, OK, fine." Unlike Lisa, in which disagreeing with her means you are "wrong, wrong, WRONG!" -- Submitted By: (Robert) on May 27, 2011, 12:38 pm

Beavis and Butthead - TV Shows
Maybe it's a sign the world's going to end -- Submitted By: (lrbloom) on May 27, 2011, 12:07 pm

Bill Nye the Science Guy - TV Shows
Bill Nye came into my bookstore once. He was quite unpleasant. However, I too liked his show. -- Submitted By: (Soggy9000) on May 27, 2011, 2:16 am

Beavis and Butthead - TV Shows
Damn, Irbloom and I are in agreement again. (What is this world coming too?) Still, airing a new show that is watered down and PC-ified would be a travesty. (Personally, I'd appreciate a premiere episode featuring a clearly-visible Muhammad....) -- Submitted By: (Soggy9000) on May 27, 2011, 2:11 am

Bachelor, The - TV Shows
The women in my family love this show (and its Bachelorette counterpart). As far as I can tell, it's nothing more than a demonstration of mass hysteria posing as romance and mass self-delusion masquerading as love. Have any of the relationships spawned by these shows been successful after the cameras stop rolling? -- Submitted By: (Soggy9000) on May 27, 2011, 2:01 am

Howard Stern - Celebrities
The Greatest Reverse Bone Moment in Radio History: The Howard Stern Show on September 11, 2001. As you'll recall, Howard stayed on the air a few hours past his usual sign-off time, just to take calls from traumatized New Yorkers who needed an outlet for their anguish. Listening to these calls, and to the raw emotions of Howard's crew, made for some truly compelling radio. Equally as important, the extended live edition of the show was a real public service, and both Howard and WXRK management deserve a huge amount of credit for it. -- Submitted By: (Soggy9000) on May 27, 2011, 1:40 am

Survivor - TV Shows
Put these yutzes on an island off the coast of Somalia, or an island in the South China Sea where millions of water snakes go to mate, or an island in the middle of the Amazon River where the neighbors are Stone Age holdovers who would just as soon shoot poisoned arrows at you as look at you. Put them in a valley in Afghanistan, or in a barrio in Ciudad Juarez, or next to a wadi in Darfur. Do that, and I'll watch your little "reality" show. -- Submitted By: (Soggy9000) on May 27, 2011, 1:15 am

Lisa Simpson - Random Topics
PYLrulz: "When Parker and Stone usually portray their opinions through South Park, they are usually sensible..." Sure, they are sensible to you, and they are sensible to me - but they aren't sensible to everyone. Again, I want to establish whether the complaints on this page are about producers of animated shows who give us their political opinions, or about producers of animated shows who give us LIBERAL political opinions. -- Submitted By: (Soggy9000) on May 27, 2011, 1:01 am

Laverne & Shirley - TV Shows
Lenny & Squiggy were the original Dumb & Dumber. However, just like my thoughts on The Ropers (Three's Company) and Flo (Alice), I thought Lenny & Squiggy were pretty funny within the context of 'Laverne & Shirley'. I'm just not sure they could have carried their own show (at least, not for long). But, it would not surprise me to learn that a Lenny & Squiggy spin-off had been considered (spin-offs were all the rage in those days). -- Submitted By: (Friedrich_Feuerstein) on May 26, 2011, 11:43 pm

Happy Days - TV Shows
or Bone the Fish, which I forgot to add to my last post. -- Submitted By: (SSM) on May 26, 2011, 7:19 pm

Happy Days - TV Shows
Happy Days seems like a forefather to a lot of stuff that exist for TV shows today, like the Chuck Cunningham sydome when a one of the main characters or somebody related to the main characters leaves with little or no explation and for next seasons acts like that characters never existed at all. Obviously Jumping the Shark is also one of them. Also a minor character or a guest star become the main character like Fonzie and Urkel. -- Submitted By: (SSM) on May 26, 2011, 7:16 pm

Wikipedia - Websites
I don't use the actual site anymore but only a few times, I just go find the "smaller" wiki fan pages to find information on some stuff. I go Bulbapedia for Pokemon stuff, Smallville Wiki, Mario Wiki, etc. -- Submitted By: (SSM) on May 26, 2011, 7:00 pm

Public Libraries - Random Topics
I go there mostly for internet access, lol. No, I also go there sometimes to rent books, dvd, or cds. Thank god for the public library though, it's save me from buying a bad movie and if the movie is very good , I go buy it. -- Submitted By: (SSM) on May 26, 2011, 6:54 pm

Lisa Simpson - Random Topics
P.S I don't hate Lisa herself because she's just a cartoon and she's 8 years old but I find her some quirks very annoying like some of Brain (from Family Guy) quirks is annoying from time to time. -- Submitted By: (SSM) on May 26, 2011, 6:44 pm

Lisa Simpson - Random Topics
Lisa can have some good points and a good reason to complian or protest like the time Marge was in the hospital and Bart and Homer is too lazy so Liza tricked them to believe they were sick because they never done housework. Or the time when she babysat Bart and Bart is acting like a jerk (even though it was funny), or when she wanted to create a doll to insirpe little girls to be more than to be some bimbo housewife. Also like Robert said before the wacking day episode but she is annoying when pushing her views down everyone throats like the infamous BBQ Episode with the pig or when Ned just wanted the schools to teach creativism but she doesn't want creativism at all, they were teaching both (evoltion and creativism) at least to have a comprimise and a open mind but Lisa doesn't think both should exist just one, she even wants Marge to choose one she Marge doesn't see what wrong teaching both. It backfried on Lisa however and got rid of evlovtion instead. -- Submitted By: (SSM) on May 26, 2011, 6:32 pm

Mission Hill - TV Shows
Sucks that it got cancelled... It was one of my favorites! -- Submitted By: (Acobjum) on May 26, 2011, 4:57 pm

Lisa Simpson - Random Topics
I've said it before. When Parker and Stone usually portray their opinions through South Park, they are usually sensible, and anybody on the other side they are goofing on are usually the nuts to begin with anyway. Lisa on the other hand, as I have said, started out ok, but now can't stand because of her portrayal of some super left whacko at times (note, I am neither right or left when it comes to politics, so I'll get that out of the way right now) -- Submitted By: (PYLrulz) on May 26, 2011, 2:42 pm

Lisa Simpson - Random Topics
Granted, I don't watch the show as much as I used to, so maybe I'm a bit behind the times here. But in the past, Lisa usually HAS been the voice of reason. (Except when her idealism proves unrealistic.) But then, so are Stan Marsh and Kyle Broflovski of South Park, at least by the end of each episode (when one of them gives us the "I've learned something important today" speech). How many of you who gripe at Lisa Simpson being positioned as a fount of wisdom have the same complaint about Stan and Kyle? Could it be that Parker & Stone are worthier than Groening & Brooks of feeding us their opinions because their opinions are closer to ours......? (Just a thought.) -- Submitted By: (Soggy9000) on May 26, 2011, 1:01 am

Lisa Simpson - Random Topics
True, Lisa's just an annoying cartoon character, and she's supposed to be a self-righteous holier-than-thou type, but they rarely portray her as that. Most of the time, she's portrayed as a hero whose beliefs are never wrong (OK, she's RARELY wrong). It's that part which we don't appreciate: Nobody likes having other people's opinions rammed down their throats, hence why many dislike/hate Lisa. In her defense, there were times when she was right: like protesting Whacking Day and trying to find out who shot Mr. Burns. As for the future Wilma Flintstone trial, she doesn't ram her opinions down our throats. We the jury find Wilma Flintstone: Not Guilty! -- Submitted By: (Robert) on May 25, 2011, 9:03 pm

Perez Hilton - Celebrities
I have no use for celebrity gossip and I especially have no use for those who make a living off of said celebrity gossip. Day one. -- Submitted By: (kingbk) on May 25, 2011, 6:21 pm

Lisa Simpson - Random Topics
Let's face it, it is indeed true that Lisa Simpson is a fictitious character. She's a figment of the writer's imaginations. The only difference between her and any other imagined person is that they've animated and publicly displayed her. It is indeed silly to be jealous of or to dislike Lisa when everything about her is imagined. She's as smart as the writers decide she'll be for that episode. Everything she says and does is all part of a script. Perhaps we should also take another thing into consideration. If Lisa is indeed a parody of intelligent/prodigy type kids then remember that her behaviour and/or making Bart/Homer look bad in order to make Lisa look good makes Lisa look bad too. The sad fact is, Lisa is as much of a victim of being an annoying character as the other characters (and viewers) that need to put up with her crap are. -- Submitted By: (ExplodingConsole) on May 25, 2011, 4:37 pm

Lisa Simpson - Random Topics
I disagree that she is supposed to be annoying. I think the idea, in the beginning at least, was that we were supposed to feel sorry for Lisa for being born into the Simpson family. The thing is, Lisa actually has things pretty good-- especially by today's standard of living. -- Submitted By: (Travoltron) on May 25, 2011, 3:27 pm

Laverne & Shirley - TV Shows
I always thought Lenny & Squiggy were far more deserving of their own show than Laverne & Shirley, but that's just me. -- Submitted By: (Soggy9000) on May 25, 2011, 8:01 am

Mork & Mindy - TV Shows
Did Garry Marshall personally hand-pick the studio audiences for his shows? Both Mork & Mindy and Happy Days suffered - and I mean SUFFERED - from an audience that did nothing but gleefully shriek for the entire half hour. Enter Robin Williams/Henry Winkler: A bloody torrent of ecstatic EEEEEEEEKS!!!!!! Hoots and hollers and whistles and every other sound your basic sugared-up teenage girl was capable of making. (Plus some actual laughter from the few adults in the crowd.) I could have murdered that audience with a rusty machete! (Laverne & Shirley wasn't quite as annoying in that respect.) And you know that half of the improv stuff that Williams let loose with went over the heads of those kids in the audience. -- Submitted By: (Soggy9000) on May 25, 2011, 7:56 am

Maledicta - Websites
That's odd. I posted a comment, and a vote was automatically cast for Never Boned. Why is that? Suppose my post had been strongly negative; would a Never Boned vote still have been cast just because my post was the first on the subject? If so, that's kind of bizarre. For the record, I have no opinion on the Maledicta site in terms of whether it has boned (and if so, when), because I just discovered it. As such, I resent my first post being accompanied by an automatically-generated positive vote, since that vote does not reflect my opinion. Maybe one of the administrators/moderators can explain this to me. -- Submitted By: (Soggy9000) on May 25, 2011, 3:48 am

Maledicta - Websites
I just discovered the site. It's strange that my interest in linguistics didn't lead me there sooner. The webmaster/author/publisher, one Reinhold Aman, is an unusually bitter fellow, but also oddly interesting, and it can't be denied that he knows a thing or two about the history of naughty language. -- Submitted By: (Soggy9000) on May 25, 2011, 3:39 am

Rock music - Random Topics
(more crickets) Dol, you're good at drive-by criticism, but you have a habit of bugging out when called on to back it up. A mere statement that something sucks, with no effort to elaborate, carries all the weight of a feather. Surely you must have a persuasive - or at least thought-provoking - defense of your assertion that rock is dead. Why withhold it from us? -- Submitted By: (Soggy9000) on May 25, 2011, 3:09 am

Liberalism - Random Topics
(.....almost a month later and I'm still hearing nothing here but crickets.....) -- Submitted By: (Soggy9000) on May 25, 2011, 2:49 am

Lisa Simpson - Random Topics
I'm with Irbloom here. In fact, Irbloom's first March 16 post, which I voted up, is by a wide margin the wisest post on this page. (And his/her last post is the funniest.) I might add that getting in high dudgeon over an annoying cartoon character who is SUPPOSED TO BE annoying is one of those things that separate a well-fed American from a resident of, oh, let's say the Congo. -- Submitted By: (Soggy9000) on May 25, 2011, 2:44 am

People of Walmart - Websites
Considering how many Walmarts there are in this country, I think it's safe to say that a good percentage of the customers are just your basic average Americans. Nor am I persuaded that the average Target customer is alot better looking or better dressed than the average Walmart customer. I will say that I've dealt with some Walmart employees whose IQs were not far above that of a sea urchin. But customers? I'm too focused on finding the product I'm looking for to notice what the customers look like. I might add that it would be helpful to see what the people who run the People of Walmart site look like. How many of THEM look like they stepped off the front page of Cosmo or GQ? -- Submitted By: (Soggy9000) on May 25, 2011, 2:18 am

Star Trek: Voyager - TV Shows
Some very interesting posts here. I feel a bit inadequate following them, but here goes: Being a Trek loyalist back then, I dutifully watched Voyager, though without much enthusiasm. There were rather few really gripping episodes, and the show wasn't as dark as one might have expected it to be, considering the overall concept. The season-ending cliffhangers did little to make me look forward to the next season, and the comings and goings of cast members made no real impression on me. In fact, I never managed to make an emotional connection with any of the characters, which meant that my interest in seeing them get home wasn't more than casual. (It was more a matter of curiosity than of hope: "How are they going to write that final episode?" As it happens, the finale was okay but, again, not terribly stirring.) I hoped Q would not make an appearance in this series, but unfortunately he did, and so did his predictably bratty kid. I can't identify a particular Boning Moment, though there was an early episode which answered the question of Amelia Earhart's disappearance in an EXTREMELY STUPID manner. In fact, there were quite a few episodes featuring stories that were scarcely more than retreads of earlier Trek stories. I will say, though, that I developed a grudging respect for Kate Mulgrew as the series progressed. -- Submitted By: (Soggy9000) on May 25, 2011, 1:43 am

Voltron: Defender of the Universe - TV Shows
Voltron has aged terribly with its hokey dubbing and extensive editing, but this show and Robotech were the only anime on TV at the time. Thankfully the uncut versions, Beast King GoLion and Armored Fleet Dairugger XV, have both been released to DVD. -- Submitted By: (Travoltron) on May 24, 2011, 11:18 pm

Roger Ebert - Celebrities
The "Siskel Croaked" boning reason is odd. I don't recall Siskel being a political conservative, and I certainly don't recall any on-air arguments between them that got political. By the way, Ebert is hardly the only film critic with a snooty attitude. If he rates a 6 on a one-to-ten scale of arrogance, John Simon would rate an 8, James Bowman (American Spectator) would be an 8.5 and the late Pauline Kael would be an easy 10. Of course, none of them ever had TV shows (as far as I know). -- Submitted By: (Soggy9000) on May 24, 2011, 8:32 pm

Matt Damon - Celebrities
Seventy votes for Day 1 and no reasons given. That's sort of interesting. -- Submitted By: (Soggy9000) on May 24, 2011, 8:07 pm

Obesity - Random Topics
Robert, you make a damn good point about the stigma of being fat vs say, being alcoholic. As an example, if someone is fat, society tends to make fun of them and seems to consider it acceptable. It's as though with obesity or simply being a little overweight, people seem to attack the person rather then the issue. If they drink too much, society often seems to treat them like a hero or at least laughs at them but in a way that seems to consider the habit funny rather then dangerous/foolish. Society indeed seems to view drinking as 'it's a very bad habit to get into and/or you need to cut down before you end up killing yourself.'. That or 'you have a problem. This is why AA exists. Please, get help.' It's not the person they're saying is bad, it's the drinking they're saying is bad and is the issue. While with being overweight, it sometimes feels more like 'you're fat because you're a bad person and/or being fat makes you a bad person." Instead of (if indeed, over eating is to blame) 'You're overweight because you eat too much and/or are too inactive. If you want to lose weight you need to make some lifestyle changes. Help is available but you need to admit and accept that you have a problem.' What makes it worse is that we all need to eat while we don't need alcohol. It's easy to over indulge when it comes to something we do every day out of a biological need. As for the medical system stuff. I was speaking from the point of view of someone that lives in a country with socialized health care. Although even with an insurance system, wouldn't it be like car insurance where everyone ends up paying more if some people cost the company more money for whatever reason? -- Submitted By: (ExplodingConsole) on May 24, 2011, 4:15 pm

Randy "Macho Man" Savage - Celebrities
Oh man, that's another one of my childhood heroes gone :( . Him and Hulk Hogan is why wrestling is so great. RIP Randy "Macho Man" Savage. -- Submitted By: (SSM) on May 24, 2011, 3:20 pm

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